http://forums.bonanza.org/ This is an XML content feed of; Hangar Flying : Last 10 Posts Copyright (c) 2006-2007 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:53:47 +0000 Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:51:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.06 30 forums.bonanza.org/RSS_topic_feed.asp http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://forums.bonanza.org/ http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1814&PID=7746#7746 Author: Eric
Subject: Landing Gear Question
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:51

We had the same problem a couple of months ago in our K35. The motor had been overhauled in 1995 and also 2000. We bought the plane in 09/08. luckily it happened on take off for what was only about a 145nm flight. I just left it down and flew back home making sure I didn't exceed the 122kts max gear extension speed. Better stuck in the down position than in the up. However, we still verified we were completely down with emergency procedure and a tower fly by. Once up on jacks my mechanic lightly tapped the motor upon inspection and it started up and cycled several times. We figured that one of the brushes had probably stuck so we decided to go ahead and change out the motor not wanting it to happen again whenever it decided to. We had the entire motor rebuilt for $1200 + install labor, armeture and all, mainly because of the other overhauls. If the armeture is in tolerance then you can get an overhauled motor for about $600, but not all shops will rebuild armetures. If armeture is out of tolerance then you have to find one that is in tolerance and and spend another $600 to $800 anyway. Eric]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:51:52 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1814&PID=7746#7746 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1816&PID=7745#7745 Author: Albert
Subject: New to it all and looking for help
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:32

Erik,
I've owned a 182, 2 182RG's, 2 Bonanzas, 2 Barons, and 1 Cessna 414A.
I currently own a 1994 A36 and it's been the best plane of them all.
I think the sweet spot for price vs value is about a 1994-1995 model.
Very few AD's, No spar issues, and great useful load in these years.
Stick with factory A/C. Go with a Garmin 500 not a Aspen. Forget about paint and interior and buy a well maintained airplane. Don't get hung up on engine time. I have 1200 hours on mine and it gets book numbers, uses no oil and has no metal at oil changes.
You can get what you want for 250k-300k. Good luck and happy hunting.
Wilson]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:32:33 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1816&PID=7745#7745 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7744#7744 Author: Jack
Subject: Short field procedure model M35
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:28

Warren, thought you might like to see how the original M Owners Manual suggests but I can't figure any way to paste it into this message. I have been flying an M for over 30 years and find that 15 - 20 degrees of flaps prove very effective. The only real difference for soft field is to keep the nose wheel unweighted and let it fly off at minimum airspeed, not necessarily the shortest distance.

Jack Feiden
jackfeiden@cox.net
PS If you want to see the page on short field take offs from the original owner's manual send me your email address.]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:28:28 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7744#7744 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7743#7743 Author: Jeff
Subject: Short field procedure model M35
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:25

I've used the information found in "Flying the Beech Bonanza" by John C. Eckalbar (ABS web store) for short field takeoffs. The takeaway point to me - you cannot climb at your published Vy with 20 degrees of flaps; Vy is significantly slower with flaps out. In my plane, Vy is 20 knots slower with 20 degrees of flaps than Vy clean.
As Eckalbar points out, 20 degrees is found where the flap and aileron are lined up when the aileron is deflected down to the stops.

As the other posts suggest, don't get in a hurry retracting the flaps or retracting the gear as you may get a little sink when they come up.

Gives a significantly shorter takeoff roll though, so well worth the effort of figuring out the best numbers for your airplane.]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:25:27 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7743#7743 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7742#7742 Author: Gerald
Subject: Short field procedure model M35
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:21

Obtain the book "Flying The Beech Bonanza" by John Eckalbar and go to page 68. The recommendation is 20 degrees of flaps and lift of 4 knots slower than normal, at 66 knots. Maintain that speed until 50ft. That is for a gross weight of 3300 lbs.]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:21:59 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7742#7742 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1816&PID=7741#7741 Author: Tom
Subject: New to it all and looking for help
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:20

Erik,

I would add that a lot of these questions reduce to personal bias. I believe that all of us pilots are motivated by two things, we love to fly and we like to get somewhere faster than if we didn't have the plane. For those two reasons, I am personally biased to fly as high as is practical. That means that turbonormalization is for me a very valuable asset. I burn 15 gl/hr and often true out at 200kts flying at 19,000'. Flying at those kinds of altitudes substantially lessens the value of air conditioning and its consequent reduction in horsepower and useful load. I have more often found myself wishing for a better heater than found myself wishing for air conditioning.

I also have a V35B with 5 seats. I have only "sold out" the cabin on two occasions. Most often I fly with the jump seat vacant. My plane had a gear up and I know it was done right because I did it myself. It was the smoothest landing I ever made, except I forgot to drop the gear. I don't know what impact it will have on it's value, but I have reason to believe that the repair was done very competently and I have no intention of selling the plane.

Finally, I developed a spreadsheet that allows you to enter the value to YOU of each feature found in the assortment of planes available for sale, then enter all the planes you find along with the features already installed and then presents you with their "corrected values" making it much easier to select among what is available. I would be glad to share it with you. I can send it by email.

Tom Lippman]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:20:39 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1816&PID=7741#7741 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1814&PID=7740#7740 Author: Robert
Subject: Landing Gear Question
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:11

I would go with the easiest first although, I think it is what Tracy Ryan mentioned...It sounds like a flat spot.

1st   Up on jacks Try the squat switch.

2nd Up on jacks turn motor by emerg. handle a turn or so. Then power up and try retract the gear...

All the best, BQ San Mateo, Ca. 8357D   J Model ]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:11:48 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1814&PID=7740#7740 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7739#7739 Author: Thomas
Subject: Short field procedure model M35
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 17:07

I'm with Scott (love your pix at Schafer by the way). I was just up at Johnson Creek and Sulpher creek a month ago. But back to flaps. Just go try a bunch of configs (practice, you'll get a feel of what works best). I have A35 185HP. It will take off with no-flaps to full-flaps (the latter isn't great as you probably get more drag than lift and it counters most POH theories, relative safety, etc). Work you way up slowly. I think Lew suggests 10-15 too - even for paved surface to minimize ground time for wheels/bearings. Gets off the ground best with 1/2 flaps, making it ~15degrees. In my case I had to measure that off and mark it.

But you will find that with practice - you'll know where to set trim to adjust for flap input.]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:07:04 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1810&PID=7739#7739 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1818&PID=7738#7738 Author: Graham
Subject: Wanted Post 90s 58, Garmin, Air
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 16:38

Looking for post 1990s 58 Baron. Air / Garmin are required. Have 88 A36 for possible trade.

-Graham Lavender, GA
478-256-2048]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:38:37 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1818&PID=7738#7738 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1817&PID=7737#7737 Author: Graham
Subject: 1988 A36 For Sale / Looking to trade for 58
Posted: Jul 30 2010 at 16:36

1988 A36 for sale, located in GA. Looking to trade for 58, late 90s model.

http://www.agairupdate.com/n4hf]]> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:36:38 +0000 http://forums.bonanza.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=1817&PID=7737#7737